~JayLeafCrow Theroy~ Yes or no? ONLY IF YOU READ THE INFO!

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The JayLeafCrow theory is just that- it's the idea that Jaypaw is actually the son of Leafpool and Crowfeather. Some people (like me) think that Jaypaw was born in secrecy, and that no other clan cat knows except Leafpool and possibly her sister. Here's some background evidence.

In 'The Sight,' while Jaypaw retorts Tigerstar in the Place of No Stars, Tigerstar says "How could kin of mine say such a thing?" This hints that Jaypaw doesn't have their bloodline or their thought. Not Brambleclaw's, that is. And if Jaypaw isn't the son of Brambleclaw, than Crowfeather would be the next bet.

Also, think about Jaypaw's attitude. His scornful remarks, his quick wit and stubborness. He even looks a bit like Crowfeather! He has greyish-black fur, and blue eyes. Crowfeather has dark gray fur and blue eyes. Coincidence? I think not.

Another bit of evidence lies in the prophecy- when Leafpool see's the three stars in the sky. Well she saw them, not Squirrelflight. That also theorizes that Hollypaw and Lionpaw are also Leafpool's, but that is a bit more conspiratorial. Also, think of this passage.

"Do you have a sign for me?" she asked, giving all her attention to the three StarClan warriors.

"Not exactly," meowed Bluestar. "But we wanted to tell you that the path of your life will twist in ways yet hidden from you."

"Yes." Yellowfang's voice was dry, with an edge to it that made Leafpool almost certain the old medicine cat knew something she wasn't telling. "You will tread a path that few medicine cats have walked before you."

It's important to realize that Yellowfang said this- she had kits behind the back of her clan, so it might be symbolic that a medicine cat would tell her this. She also had a dry voice- as if remembering all the troubles of her broken relationship.

Somewhere near the end of 'Sunset,' it says how Leafpool has gained some weight. It could be because their is more food, but it could also be because she is pregnant. Also remember that pregnant cats eat more.

Also, think about how excited Leafpool was when Jaypaw unwillingly said he would be her apprentice. Remember, this was before she knew about his special ability of traveling amongst the stars. When Hollypaw said that she would become the next medicine cat apprentice (before she decided to become a warrior), it said that Leafpool's gaze was looking across the clearing at her sister, Squirrelflight, with an expression that Hollypaw couldn't read. Plug in the clues- it's not that hard!

Here's another clue. Read this passage: "Sometimes I dream about when I was very small, traveling through snow," he confessed. "Is that right? That wasn't the Great Journey, was it?"

Tension crackled through Leafpool's fur. "No, the Great Journey was long before you were born. But your... your mother did make a long journey with you through the snow when you were very small. You were born outside the hollow, and she had to wait until you were all strong enough to travel."

Notice that Leafpool had tension while answering this subject. She seems to speak this slowly, as if making sure that no information seeps out. What information though- the information that they were her kits? Also think about when she stumbles first. "But your...your mother did make a long journey with you-" First off, Leafpool didn't say her sister's name. She said, 'your mother.' Think about it- she's a medicine cat. She was thinking about her statement very carefully, making sure that she didn't lie or slip out any truths. This quote means one thing; Leafpool had her kittens away from ThunderClan camp, possibly either by the Moonpool or by WindClan (to be with Crowfeather), and after her kitting, she gave the kits to her sister to raise. They would have a similar smell, if you think about it. They are sisters. And the long journey away would cover any scent of Leafpool on the kits.

Think about another prophecy. "Three will come, kin of your kin, who hold the power of the stars in their paws." It doesn't say kin of the orange daughter, does it? If Jaypaw was Crowfeather and Leafpool's kit, than Jaypaw is still Firestar's grandchild!

Also said in the Sight- someone said that Squirrelflight never did like staying in the nursery during pregnancy- she was up and back on her Warrior duties as soon as she could. Maybe that's because she was never really pregnant- because Leafpool was! A cat who recently gave birth would be tired for moons- she'd have to regain her strength. But Squirrelflight went right out of the nursery when she got the chance! It also said that Squirrelflight's milk never came- that Ferncloud nursed them instead. Could be be that Squirrelflight was never really pregnant? In The Sight, on page 5, paragraph 9, after Ferncloud reprimands Jaykit for playing too roughly in the nursery, it says that Ferncloud had nursed Jaypaw, Hollypaw, and Lionpaw when "Squirrelflight's milk had not come...".

Before Jaypaw falls into the lake, he says that he loves the feel of the wind in his face. About how natural it felt. He goes on about this for a while before falling in the water. Think about it- Crowfeather is a WindClan cat. It would be genetic that Jaypaw would want to feel the wind in his face if he was born with a WindClan father! And think about after that- when Crowfeather found him. He never once asked for his name. Did he already know his name, because it was his kin? Had Leafpool told him? And the way he acted towards Jaypaw- it wasn't typical Crowfeather if you read it over. It was more of a stern, father-son talking. As if he was trying to teach by punishment, rather than just being angry.

Another thing to note is when Crowfeather escorts Jaypaw back to camp, after he had saved Lionpaw and Breezpaw from the badger set. He tells him that he had 'acted like a warrior.' Why would Crowfeather, a short-tempered arrogant warrior show so much praise and affection so suddenly?

Something even more eeiree, is the fact that Yellowfang, the medicine cat of ThunderClan, killed her own son that she wasn't suppose to have because he was evil. It would be terribly ironic if Jaypaw, who is already having evil thoughts and intentions, followed the path of Brokenstar.

Not solid evidence, but interesting. Crowfeather's first part of his name is Crow- which is a bird. Think of Jaypaw- his first part is Jay. Jay is a sub species of birds (think Blue Jay and the Stellers Jay). If Leafpool got to name her child, it would be cute to name Jaypaw after her love, Crowfeather. Like I said, not solid evidence, but interesting.

Here's a quote from Vicky:
Saharastar: DO Leafpool and Crowfeather have kits together? VickyHolmes: This would be way too much of a spoiler! Wait and see, Saharastar...
Well, why would they conceal the answer to this? Just a straightforward no would leave us no room to question. But this endless answer makes it up to our imagination.

Also, think about Leafpool's connection with StarClan! Her connection has been extremely strong- think about it. Then, look at Jaypaw. If he was able to pick up his looks and personality from the WindClan tom, than what would he be able to pick up with Leafpool? Maybe he picked up Leafpool's strong sense with StarClan!

Last Updated: November 15th, 07
I hoped you enjoyed reading the JayLeafCrow theory. If you have any more evidence regarding the theory, please e-mail me at devildiva16@inbox.com.




Contributers
Thanks, Ripplewave, Pwnzoar, and Wildpelt for your contributions.

I think this is an amazing theroy! I believe it! I mean why didn't hey do something with a super edition for between the New prophecy and the power of three? Because Erin Hunter might reveal the JAYLEAFCROW Theroy in the final book! ^-^

YEAS! Besides, all the facts add up, espically what Erin Hunter said.

Aha! I've thought that for a LOOONG time! Of course I believe it!

I found another one! I forget what book this was in, but onetime, LeafPool was heading, I think, to WindClan territory. She met up with CrowFeather and his all WindClan son. When she finds out that CrowFeather has a mate and kits, she gets SOOO upset! She knew they could not be together, but why is she upset? Is it because she feels that CrowFeather betrayed his kits? Or is it just because she love him? I think not, she knew they couldn't e together and CrowFeather had to move on!

This is all soooo incredibly true! I can't believe how much evidence there is!! :shock:

Oh and in The Sight Jaypaw goes for a walk in the forest then falls in the lake, was it just coincidence it was Crowfeather and Nightcloud? And Crowfeather kinda stayed back and let Nightcloud help Jaypaw. Why? Because he didn't want Jaypaw to smell some of his scent on Crowfeather! Another thing

Spoiler:

But, this may not be true for Hollypaw and Lionpaw because remember Lionpaw has visits by Tigerstar! So, he probably is related to Brambleclaw or... Tawnypelt! Think about it!

What would Brambleclaw think if he found out that Jaypaw wasn't his real son? :o And Jaypaw does look like Crowfeather . . . but he doesn't look anything like Squirrelflight or Brambleclaw! So that supports it even more!

Yeah, I think Brableclaw would know if they weren't his children, because when a mother gives birth, them dad is right by her, and he would've known.

But what if he doesn't know? Maybe . . . . XD Wow. this is confusing.

He may have missed it... I dunno... Keep me imformed on new evidence, because, as you know, I cannot read Warriors.

Mmkay.

Remember some evidence in the book; Eclipse is JAYLIONHOLLY's mother gave borth to them in the snow in the forest... so maybe Brambleclaw wasn't with Squirrelflight at the time... maybe Leafpool and Squirrelflight where doing something or it was there plan all along!

Yeah! XD I was going to say that, but I thought it would be rather odd if both Leafpool and Squirrelflight had kits at the same time.

no I ment that Leafpool had the kits in the forest, and Squirrelflight was with her to take the place of "Mother" so the rest of the clan wouldn't know.

But I wonder if the three are really brothers and sisters? Kin of your kin doesn't only mean one kin.

Yeah! My friend says that she thinks that Jaypaw is the only one of Leafpool's, and that Holly and Lion are still Squirrel's. Although, having all three as Leaf's would opt for an easier explanation.

I always think it's just JayPaw, but SquirrelFlight and Leafpool having them at the same time isn't really believable, LOL!

I think it's true. I had never really thought about that before! Wow.

Blue_Brawl_Freak wrote:

But I wonder if the three are really brothers and sisters? Kin of your kin doesn't only mean one kin.

It makes since though, Lionpaw can battle without getting bairly any scratches. ((I know the prophecy! I just realized it!)) Hollypaw, is a smart thinker and is very agile. and Jaypaw can view other cats minds.


Anyway I bet they are kin...

Not that I'm a pessimist, but I just don't believe it.

Yes, the facts add up. But let me shed some light on this subject.

In 'The Sight,' while Jaypaw retorts Tigerstar in the Place of No Stars, Tigerstar says "How could kin of mine say such a thing?" This hints that Jaypaw doesn't have their bloodline or their thought. Not Brambleclaw's, that is. And if Jaypaw isn't the son of Brambleclaw, than Crowfeather would be the next bet.

Do not take this so literally. Tigerstar is surprised that his grandson is rejecting him. It's like telling your grandpa he's stupid, and your mom smacks you and says, "How could you say such a thing to your grandpa?"

Also, think about Jaypaw's attitude. His scornful remarks, his quick wit and stubborness. He even looks a bit like Crowfeather! He has greyish-black fur, and blue eyes. Crowfeather has dark gray fur and blue eyes. Coincidence? I think not.

If you've read PO3, it's very obvious of Jayfeather's attitude. But think deeply: don't you remember the scene in the Sight, where Jayfeather wishes he'd never been born? It's clear his anger and prickles come from the fact that he's blind, and tries to defend himself by insulting others. And Jayfeather is striped silver and grey, not dark grey.


Another bit of evidence lies in the prophecy- when Leafpool see's the three stars in the sky. Well she saw them, not Squirrelflight. That also theorizes that Hollypaw and Lionpaw are also Leafpool's, but that is a bit more conspiratorial. Also, think of this passage.

Is Squirrelflight the medicine cat? No! Why WOULD she see the stars? You may argue that since Brambleclaw saw Bluestar in Midnight, and Jayfeather sees Yellowfang, that means Squirrelflight could've seen the stars. But did Squirrelie EVER have prophetic dreams? No. Besides, Squirrelie is Leafpool's sis. It's a no-brainer Leafpool sees things that relate to her sis, seeing their close bond. Remember when Brambleclaw became deputy? Remember Leafpool's dream about him and Squirrelflight padding into the stars?


"Do you have a sign for me?" she asked, giving all her attention to the three StarClan warriors.

"Not exactly," meowed Bluestar. "But we wanted to tell you that the path of your life will twist in ways yet hidden from you."

"Yes." Yellowfang's voice was dry, with an edge to it that made Leafpool almost certain the old medicine cat knew something she wasn't telling. "You will tread a path that few medicine cats have walked before you."

It's important to realize that Yellowfang said this- she had kits behind the back of her clan, so it might be symbolic that a medicine cat would tell her this. She also had a dry voice- as if remembering all the troubles of her broken relationship.

This makes sense. After all, she did have a very different life; she fell in love, after all! But Yellowfang is closely rooted to ThunderClan, her adopted Clan, as well as Bluestar, who came to her senses after losing her last life. Yellowfang and Bluestar were the ones to talk to all the "special cats" in ThunderClan. Yellowfang visiting Jayfeather in dreams and telling him to buzz off? That makes sense, too. I still don't believe it, though.


Somewhere near the end of 'Sunset,' it says how Leafpool has gained some weight. It could be because their is more food, but it could also be because she is pregnant. Also remember that pregnant cats eat more.

But pregnant mothers can also lose their embryos soon after becoming pregnant.


Also, think about how excited Leafpool was when Jaypaw unwillingly said he would be her apprentice. Remember, this was before she knew about his special ability of traveling amongst the stars. When Hollypaw said that she would become the next medicine cat apprentice (before she decided to become a warrior), it said that Leafpool's gaze was looking across the clearing at her sister, Squirrelflight, with an expression that Hollypaw couldn't read. Plug in the clues- it's not that hard!

Jayfeather became medicine cat because he felt he had to. Leafpool was excited because she knew that, because he was blind, he couldn't be a warrior. (he could, but that would be pretty hard) Remember how she tried to coax him, how hard she wanted him to be her apprentice? She knew this was Jayfeather's destiny. Leafpool wasn't looking at Squirrelflight; it said her eyes clouded, as if gazing into the distance. She was thinking of what Jayfeather could accomplish, and wished he would give up trying to be as good as everyone else.


Here's another clue. Read this passage: "Sometimes I dream about when I was very small, traveling through snow," he confessed. "Is that right? That wasn't the Great Journey, was it?"

Tension crackled through Leafpool's fur. "No, the Great Journey was long before you were born. But your... your mother did make a long journey with you through the snow when you were very small. You were born outside the hollow, and she had to wait until you were all strong enough to travel."

Notice that Leafpool had tension while answering this subject. She seems to speak this slowly, as if making sure that no information seeps out. What information though- the information that they were her kits? Also think about when she stumbles first. "But your...your mother did make a long journey with you-" First off, Leafpool didn't say her sister's name. She said, 'your mother.' Think about it- she's a medicine cat. She was thinking about her statement very carefully, making sure that she didn't lie or slip out any truths. This quote means one thing; Leafpool had her kittens away from ThunderClan camp, possibly either by the Moonpool or by WindClan (to be with Crowfeather), and after her kitting, she gave the kits to her sister to raise. They would have a similar smell, if you think about it. They are sisters. And the long journey away would cover any scent of Leafpool on the kits.

Leafpool was discovering for the first time, Jayfeather's talents. He was seeing things in his dreams. She was mystified by his powers.


Think about another prophecy. "Three will come, kin of your kin, who hold the power of the stars in their paws." It doesn't say kin of the orange daughter, does it? If Jaypaw was Crowfeather and Leafpool's kit, than Jaypaw is still Firestar's grandchild!

True, but still to inconclusive.


Also said in the Sight- someone said that Squirrelflight never did like staying in the nursery during pregnancy- she was up and back on her Warrior duties as soon as she could. Maybe that's because she was never really pregnant- because Leafpool was! A cat who recently gave birth would be tired for moons- she'd have to regain her strength. But Squirrelflight went right out of the nursery when she got the chance! It also said that Squirrelflight's milk never came- that Ferncloud nursed them instead. Could be be that Squirrelflight was never really pregnant? In The Sight, on page 5, paragraph 9, after Ferncloud reprimands Jaykit for playing too roughly in the nursery, it says that Ferncloud had nursed Jaypaw, Hollypaw, and Lionpaw when "Squirrelflight's milk had not come...".

It had come; there was a problem with it, and that resulted in Jayfeather's disability.


Before Jaypaw falls into the lake, he says that he loves the feel of the wind in his face. About how natural it felt. He goes on about this for a while before falling in the water. Think about it- Crowfeather is a WindClan cat. It would be genetic that Jaypaw would want to feel the wind in his face if he was born with a WindClan father! And think about after that- when Crowfeather found him. He never once asked for his name. Did he already know his name, because it was his kin? Had Leafpool told him? And the way he acted towards Jaypaw- it wasn't typical Crowfeather if you read it over. It was more of a stern, father-son talking. As if he was trying to teach by punishment, rather than just being angry.

This is true, but father x mother = half and half. Jayfeather has the Thunderclan stalking. Like, this...Cloudtail and Brightheart had Whitewing. Whitewing has Cloudtail's pelt, though not Cloudtail's eyes.

Another thing to note is when Crowfeather escorts Jaypaw back to camp, after he had saved Lionpaw and Breezpaw from the badger set. He tells him that he had 'acted like a warrior.' Why would Crowfeather, a short-tempered arrogant warrior show so much praise and affection so suddenly?

This is a good fact, but Jayfeather saved Crowfeather's (and Nightcloud's) SON! Why wouldn't he be grateful, yes, even Crowy can be grateful, to the blind apprentice. Surprised at his ability.


Something even more eeiree, is the fact that Yellowfang, the medicine cat of ThunderClan, killed her own son that she wasn't suppose to have because he was evil. It would be terribly ironic if Jaypaw, who is already having evil thoughts and intentions, followed the path of Brokenstar.

Eerie. Not eeiree. Sheesh. Now that's a cool fact. Jayfeather wanted to attack WindClan when the dogs attacked. He wanted to take advantage of them. EVIL! :) ...but he didn't listen to Tigerstar, like Tawnypelt hadn't, and like Lionpaw had. Which proves he has more good in him than Brambleclaw DID.


Not solid evidence, but interesting. Crowfeather's first part of his name is Crow- which is a bird. Think of Jaypaw- his first part is Jay. Jay is a sub species of birds (think Blue Jay and the Stellers Jay). If Leafpool got to name her child, it would be cute to name Jaypaw after her love, Crowfeather. Like I said, not solid evidence, but interesting.

Yes, isn't it interesting how Jayfeather and Crowfeather have the alike names?


Here's a quote from Vicky:
Saharastar: DO Leafpool and Crowfeather have kits together? VickyHolmes: This would be way too much of a spoiler! Wait and see, Saharastar...
Well, why would they conceal the answer to this? Just a straightforward no would leave us no room to question. But this endless answer makes it up to our imagination.

Also, think about Leafpool's connection with StarClan! Her connection has been extremely strong- think about it. Then, look at Jaypaw. If he was able to pick up his looks and personality from the WindClan tom, than what would he be able to pick up with Leafpool? Maybe he picked up Leafpool's strong sense with StarClan!

No offense, Socky, but I don't agree with your arguement...

It doesn't offend me at all. I'm just a little skeptic about everyone automatically ready to believe wavering "facts".

...Don't get me wrong. It would be cool if Jayfeather was Leafpool's kit.